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Bitesize: Plant-based vs. vegan with Jeffrey Boadi
Learn the differences between a plant-based and vegan diet in this short bitesize clip with Catherine and Jeffrey Boadi.
Find out more vegan and plant-based diet myths in the full episode with Catherine and Jeffrey: #17 Mythbusting: Vegan vs. Plant-Based with Jeffrey Boadi.
Episode Guest:
2017 was a major shift for Jeffrey in terms of shifting his eating pattern to one that solely prioritised plants.
Now it wasn’t all plain sailing - it was rewiring everything he knew about health and nutrition. But it wasn’t long before he started getting the hang of it and optimising it for health and performance, as well as enhancing his skills in the kitchen.
He soon got to a point where he was building a solid understanding of plant-based nutrition and it’s benefits for our physiology, and began sharing nutritious and delicious recipes on his Twitter and Instagram accounts, which began getting positive feedback from an ever-growing community.
And thus The Wealth of Health was born - a space where layers could be added to the journey he was on and show people that plant-based living is the way forward for many.
Plant-based nutrition is a true passion for Jeffrey, and he wants this space to be somewhere you can learn and leave with greater understanding of how adding more plants to your plate can benefit you - and those around you.
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I love your description
Speaker:of the difference between vegan
Speaker:and plant based.
Speaker:Tell the listeners what
Speaker:your take on that is.
Speaker:Yeah, So I think- I mean, first of
Speaker:all, we have to understand that
Speaker:veganism is an ethic first and
Speaker:foremost. It is the, you know,
Speaker:refraining from utilising any kind
Speaker:of animal products, whether it be
Speaker:for food, consumer goods,
Speaker:clothing, etc..
Speaker:Now, if someone, for
Speaker:the majority of people who kind of
Speaker:adopts that more of an ethical
Speaker:standpoint and of course, you know,
Speaker:I've got respect people who do that
Speaker:provided that they don't, you know,
Speaker:push it in people's faces.
Speaker:I think we have to remember that
Speaker:they may not be considering
Speaker:optimising their diet as a part of
Speaker:that. They might just think, I'm
Speaker:going to just remove animal products
Speaker:from my plate and remove animal
Speaker:products from my shoes and things
Speaker:like that.
Speaker:And I'm happy to go ahead and
Speaker:survive on, you know, Oreos
Speaker:or, you know, vegan nuggets or all
Speaker:of these other processed, you know,
Speaker:replacement foods that we're seeing
Speaker:nowadays.
Speaker:There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker:If people want to do that, that's
Speaker:fine.
Speaker:But as I said, being vegan
Speaker:tells me what you don't eat, but
Speaker:being plant based, the whole food
Speaker:plant based, as we call it,
Speaker:tells me what you do.
Speaker:That tells me that you're
Speaker:prioritising, you know, removing
Speaker:animal products from a perspective
Speaker:of trying to optimise your health
Speaker:and that would include a variety
Speaker:of fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds,
Speaker:whole grains and legumes.
Speaker:Those are the foods that you're
Speaker:going to be prioritising every
Speaker:single day, like mushrooms
Speaker:in there and a few other bits as
Speaker:well. So I think if someone
Speaker:tells me that plant based and they
Speaker:focus on the health side of things
Speaker:and it could be an extension of
Speaker:their ethics, you know, I know many
Speaker:people who are ethical
Speaker:vegans but eat a whole food plant
Speaker:based diet.
Speaker:So that's, you know, that's
Speaker:become that that's very clear in
Speaker:terms of how they want to do both
Speaker:sides of things. I think that's
Speaker:great.
Speaker:You know, I do I do worry sometimes
Speaker:for the... I guess the people who
Speaker:are just primarily vegan who
Speaker:may be on, you know, they remove
Speaker:meat from the plate and
Speaker:automatically think that that's, you
Speaker:know, the job done.
Speaker:Of course, from an ethical standpoint,
Speaker:that's, you know, they're serving
Speaker:themselves well. But from a,
Speaker:nutritional standpoint, because you
Speaker:also have to look after yourself, in
Speaker:my opinion, I think it's a really
Speaker:good idea to be a healthy advocate
Speaker:and a healthy champion for your
Speaker:cause.
Speaker:You know, you you wonder if your,
Speaker:you know, Oreos and all these
Speaker:different foods which are
Speaker:technically animal free but
Speaker:are devoid of any nutrition.
Speaker:So there can be a big difference
Speaker:between the two and I guess it's
Speaker:just a case of how people approach
Speaker:it, really.
Speaker:Well, this is the thing I think is
Speaker:often the case where, you know,
Speaker:someone decides to shift to a plant
Speaker:based diet and they might be eating
Speaker:some of these meat alternatives.
Speaker:You know, people might start to
Speaker:think, oh, you know, it's just all
Speaker:vegan. That is junk food.
Speaker:And I think the reason why that that
Speaker:perspective or that that perception
Speaker:exists is because of the aggressive
Speaker:marketing of a lot of these, you
Speaker:know, vegan replacement meat
Speaker:products. Like you can go and if you
Speaker:go on the underground in London, for
Speaker:example, you'll see adverts
Speaker:for, you know, this is bacon, some
Speaker:vegan bacon, you see adverts
Speaker:for these other impossible burgers
Speaker:and all this other stuff.
Speaker:And what that's doing is it's kind
Speaker:of building the picture
Speaker:that anyone who decides to go vegan
Speaker:is going to eat these foods in these
Speaker:foods only.
Speaker:And a lot of people do.
Speaker:I don't think that's a very good
Speaker:strategy because the likelihood is
Speaker:that you're not really going to get
Speaker:the key nutrients that you do need
Speaker:to actually feel any kind of,
Speaker:you know, to feel decent
Speaker:on a plant based diet and then you
Speaker:might end up just going, you know,
Speaker:I'm just going to go back to what I
Speaker:felt was normal for me.
Speaker:So that's really it.
Speaker:And I think look, I think one of the
Speaker:things is the people need to
Speaker:understand is that it's going to
Speaker:become over the years
Speaker:as, you know, all these more meat
Speaker:products come out, more meat
Speaker:alternative products come out and
Speaker:all these other vegan replacement
Speaker:foods come out, is actually going to
Speaker:be... If you're not aware and
Speaker:if you don't have the discernment,
Speaker:it's going to be quite difficult to
Speaker:become or to be a healthy vegan,
Speaker:particularly if you're starting out
Speaker:because you're just going to be bombarded
Speaker:with, oh, eat this bacon
Speaker:or, you know, do this vegan
Speaker:chicken or whatever it may be.
Speaker:So for me,
Speaker:I think the best way to do a
Speaker:diet that's free from animal
Speaker:products is to focus on the Whole
Speaker:Foods, be a champion, healthy
Speaker:champion of the cause, even if you
Speaker:know you are someone doing it from
Speaker:a primarily ethical standpoint,
Speaker:you're going to feel great.
Speaker:And actually what you're going to do
Speaker:is you're going to radiate a
Speaker:certain, you know, you might
Speaker:not want to radiate a certain level
Speaker:of health, but naturally, you know,
Speaker:if you're going to be if you're going
Speaker:to start to speak about something
Speaker:that's passionate, that you're
Speaker:passionate about, you also want to
Speaker:radiate that as well, because it's
Speaker:one thing to speak about something,
Speaker:but if you actually look the part,
Speaker:you actually, you know, are the
Speaker:example of what you're
Speaker:demonstrating, then
Speaker:people are more likely to maybe
Speaker:listen to you, you know what I mean.
Speaker:So, and I think that will be done
Speaker:if you focus on the whole foods,
Speaker:the fruits, getting the vegetables
Speaker:in. Nuts and seeds,
Speaker:whole grains, legumes, like these
Speaker:are foods that are going to provide
Speaker:you with a ton of nutrients
Speaker:and different different ways to
Speaker:find, you know, different ways to
Speaker:get used to cooking as well.
Speaker:So and again, that's one thing
Speaker:that... I was never a cook before I
Speaker:went plant based. And now I'm trying
Speaker:all these recipes, which is crazy.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:If someone... I mean, obviously
Speaker:we've got veganuary and a lot
Speaker:of the trouble is with that, it's
Speaker:great because it makes people think.
Speaker:But again, a lot of people will
Speaker:reach for the convenience.
Speaker:If someone was really thinking,
Speaker:right, whether for ethical
Speaker:reasons, for health reasons,
Speaker:whatever reason it might be.
Speaker:I really want to get into this.
Speaker:Where would you suggest they start?
Speaker:I would suggest that they start
Speaker:because I don't think many people
Speaker:will be able to go cold turkey like
Speaker:I did. I think that's quite a big
Speaker:ask for a lot of people.
Speaker:I would say focus on one meal
Speaker:and getting that done
Speaker:in a whole food fashion.
Speaker:So even for example, something like
Speaker:breakfast, oatmeal was one of the
Speaker:easiest things that you can do, one
Speaker:of the most nutritious ones, if it's
Speaker:prepared properly, of course, and
Speaker:you go for maybe like organic
Speaker:or even sprouted oats if you can.
Speaker:And adding just so many different
Speaker:toppings like the pumpkin seeds,
Speaker:hemp seeds, blueberries, which we
Speaker:all know are super beneficial for
Speaker:your brain and inflammation.
Speaker:And just maybe just make that a
Speaker:habit. See if you can perfect that,
Speaker:get that down to a tee and then
Speaker:maybe get two or three others.
Speaker:Kind of easy recipes under your
Speaker:belt, you know, maybe utilising
Speaker:foods that you've that you kind of
Speaker:experienced with before
Speaker:and then trying to just kind of
Speaker:incorporate them into different
Speaker:recipes and using the inspiration
Speaker:that's out there on social media.
Speaker:I also say that one of the biggest
Speaker:and most important things is to just
Speaker:accept that it's going to be it's
Speaker:not going to be a lifestyle that's
Speaker:going to cater to convenience.
Speaker:If you want to do it properly and if
Speaker:you want to do it well and thrive,
Speaker:you have to get used to cooking.
Speaker:You have to get accustomed to
Speaker:the fact that you'll be cooking
Speaker:a lot more than you ever really
Speaker:would. But what that will do in turn
Speaker:is that'll bring you closer to your
Speaker:food. I think cooking is
Speaker:one of the most powerful things that
Speaker:you can do.
Speaker:It's right, I'm taking control of
Speaker:everything that's going onto
Speaker:this, you know, into this chopping
Speaker:board, into that frying pan of that
Speaker:on my plate and then into my body.
Speaker:You know, what's in there.
Speaker:And there's something really, really
Speaker:powerful about that.
Speaker:So I think that's really important
Speaker:that people understand that cooking
Speaker:is really the way forward.
Speaker:Like you say, Veganuary is great and
Speaker:I do you know, I've been making some
Speaker:recipes for Veganuary, but
Speaker:there's something about the,
Speaker:you know, the process side of things
Speaker:which makes people, you know, people
Speaker:get a lot of value out of that.
Speaker:You know, I was having a chat with
Speaker:someone who was saying that you
Speaker:mentioned that they had a friend who
Speaker:was, you know, what was
Speaker:happening... They said something
Speaker:along the lines that they wanted to
Speaker:replace the breakfast, their
Speaker:typical egg and bacon.
Speaker:And they went for vegan versions and
Speaker:it was disgusting. And I was just
Speaker:like, you actually probably better
Speaker:off eating the normal eggs.
Speaker:It's like, you got to change
Speaker:it up! You got to do like a whether
Speaker:it's a scramble tofu or, you know,
Speaker:some kind of sourdough with avocado
Speaker:and broccoli sprouts or whatever,
Speaker:oatmeal or smoothie.
Speaker:Like there's so many healthy vegan
Speaker:breakfast options.
Speaker:You don't need to go for these, you
Speaker:know, these vegan bacon and all this
Speaker:kind of stuff.
Speaker:For me, it's like, I understand
Speaker:why they do it. I get it.
Speaker:But for the long term, if
Speaker:you want if you want to do this even
Speaker:beyond January and actually, you
Speaker:know, be healthy and thrive, I just
Speaker:don't see where the value
Speaker:long term in these foods is.
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