Episode 30

#30 Change your habits, change your life | Angelica Alen

I'm back with the wonderful Angelica Alen, Stage 3 Cancer survivor and Life Coach, to talk about habits and how they can change our lives. Angelica has some really fantastic advice on habit forming, how to make them work for us and making them stick.

Episode Guest:

Angelica Alen is a health and life coach, a stage 3 Bowel cancer survivor & thriver.

Angelica is passionate about empowering you to take charge of your habits so you can create a healthier, happier and more fulfilled version of you

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Key Takeaways:

  • Try to incorporate health into your daily life, rather than see it as ‘other’. In a listener-asked example, rather than having to choose between cooking a healthy meal and spending time with your child, why not cook with them, or have them nearby while you cook.
  • It can be so beneficial to redirect your energy away from worrying about things, to just getting them done! 
  • Find your balance between pushing yourself to do better and knowing when to stop. If we always hold off because we don’t “feel like it”, we may never start something amazing and beneficial! 
  • When trying to form habits, start small and work your way up slowly. If you try to do too much too fast, your habit likely won’t stick in the long term. 
  • It’s okay to find your own way of doing things. If you don’t enjoy walking, find an alternative that you do like! 
  • It’s important to really evaluate your motivations - cosmetics alone are usually not enough. Think of all the additional benefits.
  • Endless scrolling social media can be a huge block in forming positive habits. 
  • It’s your responsibility to take control of your own health and wellbeing. 
  • There’s no better time to start than right now! It’s ok to just start with what you have, it’s not a race.

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I don't know anyone where

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everything's perfect in our lives if

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we're all honest there's all areas

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where we do want to change.

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I've had to really take a good

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look at myself and see how much

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energy I've wasted over the years

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worrying about things.

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What am I going to do tomorrow when

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that inner voice that has always

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been there...

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Belittling me and putting

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me down and never encouraging

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me. What am I going to answer

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to that voice? Because that voice is

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not going to go away.

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And that's not because you you're

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crazy.

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Everybody has got that little voice.

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Yeah, I think yeah,

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I think you said so many times in

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this interview and I'm so grateful

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that you have, that this is not

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about beating yourself up.

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It's not about judging yourself.

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There's a huge difference

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between

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understanding

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where you're at and criticising

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yourself.

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I think there are two things that we

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should start our morning with

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that is a must.

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That doesn't mean that they need to

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go to boot camp, you know,

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but that doesn't mean that they need

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to become plant based overnight.

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What it is meditation?

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Do I have to become a monk like, you

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know, in the cave and humming?

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No, that

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is a killer of any

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any physical, mental and emotional

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health chance of you

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feeling in control of your life.

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You know, people that succeed, they

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have a plan. They don't don't just

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go with the flow.

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Hello. My name's Catherine Edwards,

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host of the Live Love Learn podcast.

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For people that are listening to

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this on a podcast platform

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rather than on my YouTube.

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Now, I am absolutely delighted

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to have back a guest that I've had

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on my channel before.

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Angelica Alen and Angelica

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Alen is a health and life coach,

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and we did a first interview that I

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really encourage everyone to listen

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to, which was about "the

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mindset that changed my life".

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And Angelica explains the journey

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that's got her to where

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she is today.

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But today we are going to be

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speaking about something that is

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absolutely fundamental to

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every single one of us watching,

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because when we start having

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a better grasp of this,

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everything in our life changes.

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And what we're going to be talking

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about today is habits,

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everything to do with habits, how

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we can recognise when our current

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ones are no longer serving us, and

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most importantly, how we can

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create new habits which

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are going to serve us physically,

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emotionally, mentally, spiritually

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to create the life that we want.

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So Angelica, first and foremost,

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thank you so much for coming back

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today.

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How are you doing?

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Thank you so much, Catherine, for

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having me. It's just a pleasure.

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It's so great to reconnect.

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Our first episode, like you said, I

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really encourage people to listen to

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it. It was amazing.

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And today we're going to be

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answering a few questions from that

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episode as well, which I think it's

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great that people are participating,

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wanting to make some

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changes to improve their life as

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well. And I think the initiative

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that you're doing here and it's

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incredible, so, so amazing.

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You know, we need more people like

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you doing this kind of work.

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I think living consciously, such an

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important part of

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our lives, if we want to create

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this beautiful, happy and fulfilled

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life that we are in this lifetime

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to live for. So thank you so much

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for having me here.

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It's absolutely a pleasure.

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And I really love the fact that

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so many of our listeners asked

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questions below our last

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video.

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So for those of you watching this on

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YouTube, please do ask questions

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in the comments. And Angelica and I

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can come back and cover those next

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time. And for those of you listening

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on to a podcast platform

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all my contact details to email

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any questions through are below.

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Now, before we really launch into

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it, we are having a few Internet

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issues because Angelica is in the

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middle of a move.

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So if we freeze a bit, just bear

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with us. It's worth sticking through

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because there's so much information.

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Let's start Angelica with

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some of the questions we had last

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time, if that's okay.

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I've written a few of them down and

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you can- if

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I've missed any, let me know.

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But the reason I think we should

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start with these is they lead really

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nicely. They link in to what we're

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going to be talking about today,

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many of them anyway.

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So we have one really good question

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where I'm not mentioning people's

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names, just because I didn't

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ask them if they're happy to have

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that them read.

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But this was a really good question.

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I have a full time job and a

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daughter.

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All of this super healthy living is

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very good and well, but how do

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we fit in time for it?

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Seriously, the other day to make

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healthy food, I had to choose

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between seeing my daughter and

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making us a nice meal.

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I'd really appreciate an episode

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on fitting all this into a day/week

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schedule.

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Bulk cooking is a good idea, but

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this is great frozen?

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Sometimes hearing about all the

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health supplements and what I'm

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doing wrong actually adds stress

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onto to a life where I struggle

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to fit things in.

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I think a lot of people can

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empathise with that.

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Angelica.

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Yeah, definitely.

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And I think that's real.

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Everybody's busy, right?

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Like, I, you know, so

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for the people that don't know about

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my story that I shared in the

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last episode, I am a stage three

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cancer survivor.

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I then I started my healing journey

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during chemotherapy.

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So for me was somehow kind

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of a gradual increase in

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to, you know, I have

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new habits that I had to retain in

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a busy life because during chemo I

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was at home.

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But then once I started getting

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back to normal life and I needed to

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go to work and be at work and

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and do things and do normal things

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in life and life got busy.

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I had to fit everything that I

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did within my

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whole life again.

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Right. And I think that

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one thing that it's very,

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very easy to do

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is that...

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To think that health is

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put aside.

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Like so the question

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that we're talking about, you know,

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how do I fit in?

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Oh, like, how can I...

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Should I spend time with my daughter

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or cook a healthy meal?

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Why can't we just do both together?

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You know, take this

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journey with me, right?

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That's what I said!

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And, you know,

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I.

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You know, and I'm not saying that

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they cook for me every day, but

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my kids, they want to

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know, what are we having for dinner?

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They cherish, like sitting

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down together and having a good

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meal together.

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You know, they want to participate

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on the choices that we going to

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have, you know, every day

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because they know how important it

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is to eat healthily.

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So if even if they're kind of,

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you know, going around the house and

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not knowing what to do because I

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don't want them to be on devices and

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things like that, I'll say to them

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ok you can come and help me, or you

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can go and read a book next to me,

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or you can draw like my daughter

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likes drawing next to me.

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So it's kind of because I think it

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depends on the age as well.

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I think when they are little, they

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just want to be close to you.

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They just want to be with you, you

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know? And if you kind of listen to

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some music together and they are

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doing that just by being close,

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you know, physically, you know, they

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are happy because they have you

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there and you can be talking about

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your day to day or you know, what is

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happening at school and things like

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that. So it's not a choice of

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no, should I do this or that.

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It's just how you can incorporate

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and make it fun, you know, if

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it becomes a chore, nobody

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wants to do it right, to

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start making the habit

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of making health as

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your priority.

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You fit in.

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You don't just leave it out and it

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doesn't become a chore.

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You know, and I think that, you

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know, and we're going to talk a little

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bit further after we answer a few

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more questions, how we do that, how

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we create that, you know, that is

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kind of in a sustainable way for the

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long term, which is I think it's the

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most important thing.

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You know, like how can we it is not

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like a diet plan

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for ten weeks, for 12 weeks.

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It's how do you do that as

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part of our life.

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And, you know, and don't forget the

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benefits of,

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like showing your kids modelling

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to your kids, how important

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the importance that you give to

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health. Right. Like my kids,

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I am like guarantee

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100% in

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my journey wasn't about just changes

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in me.

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My physical, mental and emotional

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health. It was about how can

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I teach them?

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How can a model for them

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to always put themselves

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first, to always put their health

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first so they never have to go

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through what I went through?

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So I think that's kind of how we

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change again, our mindset

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behind the little bits that

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get us stuck.

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I love it. And it's exactly what I

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do. Our children do, what we do,

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not what we say.

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So if we're saying that

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we're putting healthy eating as a

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priority and not spending time doing

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with that. But children love

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gardening. I mean, my children...

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I get a lot about- because I've

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got so many animals and everyone

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always sees it as a chore.

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And I'm not no, it's not a chore.

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It's a benefit.

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It gets me out in nature every day.

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It builds my microbiome, it keeps me

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moving, it keeps me fit.

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My children have grown up doing that

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every day.

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And what an amazing way to start

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your morning.

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So we spend a lot of energy.

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Don't we on thoughts and we're going

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to come on to this with the habits.

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It's really important.

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We're spending a lot of energy

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worrying and I am a natural worrier.

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My natural personality.

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I've had to really

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take a good look at myself and see

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how much energy I've wasted

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over the years worrying about

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things. Yeah, we're hopefully

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going to start off today and come

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back and do more of is how we

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can convert that energy into

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something more positive.

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So it was a really lovely question.

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Thank you so much.

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The next one I've got is equally

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good.

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And so she really...

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She was "diagnosed with breast

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cancer stage three in November

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and feel very strongly that with the

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right mindset, I will absolutely

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survive this.

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I'm halfway through my second round

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of chemo of 12 weeks

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and I meditate and flow with

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the situation.

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No fighting.

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My question is I know I have

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to exercise more, but because of the

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chemo, I'm just too tired.

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I go out for walks every day as long

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as I can or go for a bicycle ride.

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But still my muscles have become

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very weak.

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I just feel to

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just let my body have all the rest

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it needs right now.

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And then in six weeks, when I finish

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the chemo, start with the gym.

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I would like to know if following

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the needs of my body now is a smart

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thing to do, or should I force

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myself to do more exercise?"

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I think that is a great question.

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That is a very, very powerful

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question.

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So during chemotherapy, somebody

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sent me a video of a lady

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who was battling stage four cancer.

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Bowel cancer at the time,

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and she had beat

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the stage, fought four cancer, I

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had stage three B, with exercise.

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As soon as I saw that, I

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was like, that's it. I need to make

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exercise as a priority.

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Now for this person who

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asked that question.

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I was sick 24/7.

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You know, if you ever felt morning

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sickness. I felt like this

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24/7. I didn't...

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I had probably a minute of relief

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just after I ate and that was it.

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Nothing else.

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So I was sick.

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I was tired.

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The first session, I spent five

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days in bed, you know, like it

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was. It was rough.

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It was not easy at all.

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But there is science

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backing up exercise during cancer

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treatment now that it's you

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can't deny the

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benefits of exercising during

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chemo anymore.

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Oncologist should be actually

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encouraging it.

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You know, this was five years for

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me. And oncologists should be

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encouraging people to doing that

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because now it's a fact.

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It's real, it's a science backing

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this up. So that's the first,

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right?

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The second, I do

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understand that the body

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needs a lot of rest.

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So it's not again, it's not there.

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Should I do this or should I do

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that? You need to do both.

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So...

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And both are going to be equally

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important. And how do you go about

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it is that you

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need to learn and connect

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your body to process what it is.

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The balance that I push my body

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and I respect my body.

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And it's a very fine line that

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nobody can tell you apart from

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yourself.

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But there is no growth if you don't

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push your body, right?

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If you don't push your body, is

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this six weeks?

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You know, for me was seven and a

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half months. If I hadn't done any

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exercise, my body would have gone

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like that.

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But my body didn't because I was

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able to finish chemo feeling

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stronger than I started and I had 12

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sessions.

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If I hadn't done any exercise,

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all my muscles, everything

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would have declined a lot.

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Yeah, but I wasn't in that position.

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I didn't have cancer fatigue.

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I didn't have anything because

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I exercise daily.

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Now, again, how do you go about

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that? It's a habit.

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I started with 5 minutes

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in a walk around the block, 5

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minutes yoga when I couldn't even

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get out of the house, 5

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minutes on my bike that I put on a

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wheel trainer.

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And then from five you go to six,

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you go to seven, you go to eight.

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But let me tell you, you're not

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going to feel like it.

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Hmm.

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You are not going to feel like it.

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But, you know, you have to make a

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decision.

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You know, if I used to ask myself

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every single morning, do

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I want to live or die?

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I didn't have any other options.

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Staying bed wasn't an option

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for me.

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Yeah. You know, I really strongly

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believe that.

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You know, like, especially in

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the cancer journey, there is lots of

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moving parts, not

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doing one thing.

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It's going to be the solution

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for the problem it's doing a lot

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of different things.

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And exercise is a massive

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important part.

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So is really playing around.

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Sometimes I would just go for

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it and I would be sweating

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so much that my PICC line, I

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had a PICC line on my arm would

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just get like irritated,

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you know, and would be like, Oh, you

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know, the oncologist would be like,

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Oh, maybe you should stop

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exercising.

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I'm like, No,

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I'm not stopping exercise.

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So it is really a fine

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line that only you can

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connect your body each time and feel

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in your self.

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You know, today, how much can I push

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my body and how much can I

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respect my body?

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And that just creates such

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a beautiful connection with your

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body. You know that I still have

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to the I know when I am

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tired and I need to get to bed early

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and I know what

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I need to do to push myself in an

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exercise session, in a yoga

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session, if I want,

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I know exactly what my body needs

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because I created that connection

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with my body.

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Love it. I think that's such good

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advice.

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So I hope that helps.

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Thank you. We're looking forward to

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more questions under this.

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Now, the next question that I had

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leads really nicely into

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about how do we form habits

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and what habits should we be looking

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at that are no longer serving us?

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So this chap was asking

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about, you know, I want to find out

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more about what you guys do with

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to stay healthy, food

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and water, what supplements both

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lifestyle and for me, Angelica.

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These are all the things we're

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looking at when we're talking about

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what habits are going to serve us

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that we need to be incorporating.

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Because no animal and nature,

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not a single animal in nature

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isn't doing what you were saying

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then and balancing lots of things.

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I don't think i've got shelter, so

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I don't need to eat.

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It's

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this balancing act the whole time

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when we embrace the fact

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that we can make different choices

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around our shelter, our

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food, our water, our thoughts,

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our company, etc..

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So let's dive into the habits now

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and sort of say when we're talking

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about habits.

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Where do people start?

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How do they, first of all realise,

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you know what? I've got to make a

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change. What I'm doing at the

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moment, they might not label it as

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habits, but that their daily life

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isn't suiting them.

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What is the starting point?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I think making a decision,

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it's the first thing like saying,

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no, I need to change something in my

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life. I need to know having the

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intention behind that.

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I really am ready to change.

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You know, I am. I'm all in now.

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That doesn't mean that they need to

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go to a 45 minutes

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session at the gym, and I think

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that's where the problem is.

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That doesn't mean that they need to

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go to boot camp.

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You know that that doesn't mean that

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they need to become plant based

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overnight.

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So for me, you know, and I

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really guide my clients through

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small changes and that,

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you know, if people are listening to

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that and they are in that place of

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like, I need to do something, I

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think there are two things that we

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should start our morning with

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that it's a must.

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We need to exercise our body and we

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need to exercise our minds

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the way that we exercise our bodies.

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It could look like a 5

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minutes walk on the spot while

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you listen to three songs.

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If somebody hasn't exercise for

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a long time, if somebody

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is overweight and they have a lot

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of weight to lose and they're

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putting a lot of weight on their

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joints, you don't want to do

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anything drastic.

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They could be in a five minute

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yoga session. They go on YouTube.

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There's plenty of amazing features

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there. You just choose 5

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minutes.

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And you start doing that every

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single morning.

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And the 5 minutes exercise of the

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mind is a 5 minutes meditation.

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Now, don't call it meditation

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because there's so much pressure

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with that, right?

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What it is meditation.

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Do I have to become a monk?

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Like, you know, in the cave and

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humming? No. It's just

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5 minutes that you do nothing.

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That it could be a game with

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an app like I've used at the

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beginning headspace, which I really

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like, just to guide

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you through it, you know, just to

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really kind of go, okay, you know,

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now take some deep breath.

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Now, does that mean that you're

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going to sit there and you're not

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going to have any thoughts, any

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worries, anything coming up?

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Oh, yes. You're going to have that.

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Don't worry about it.

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The most important thing is to

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show up for yourself every single

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day.

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That is the most important.

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Does that mean that with the 5

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minutes walk, you're going to become

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an Olympian overnight?

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No, but but

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I can guarantee you that the 5

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minutes that you

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walk on the spot is going to start

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to make you stronger, is

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going to start to make you mentally

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happier, is going to

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start to make you

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feel happier about yourself

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because you know that you are doing

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something for you.

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And you know that the endorphins

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will be going you going to start the

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day in a different way.

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You're going to start tackling

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things in a different way.

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So everything starts compounding.

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Now, I would suggest that people

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stay on this for at least two weeks.

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Don't start adding anything to

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it, because that's a way

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again,

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everything goes pear shaped.

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Oh, but I know what I need now to

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change everything.

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You know my diet. I

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need to go from 5

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minutes. 5 minutes is not doing

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anything I need to do half an

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hour. No.

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It is not like

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a race.

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It is a life change.

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It is changing a mindset.

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Even if I did this for the rest of

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my life, that's what I'm doing.

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So when I go back to my myself

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during chemo, that's what I thought.

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What can I do for the rest of

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my life that I'm doing

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now that I can keep doing?

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And let's face it, walking.

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Walking is something that most can

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do.

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It has incredible benefits.

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You don't have to go to the gym.

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You know. And when I say walk on the

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spot is that I have lots of clients

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that live in Canada and America is

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really cold in England.

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So again, if you're walking on spot,

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you have no excuses.

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I used to exercise on my pyjamas

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and sometimes I still do.

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You just you get out of bed,

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you stand up and

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you just walk on the spot.

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There is no excuse for not

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doing it.

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And I think another important thing

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is thinking, okay, so I need an

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extra 15 minutes in the morning,

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5 minutes to walk on spot, 5

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minutes to do a meditation, you

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know, another 5 minutes to give or

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take.

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So going to bed 15

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minutes earlier.

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So you don't compromise on your

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sleep.

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What are most people doing an hour

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before they go to bed?

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They are on social media.

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They are watching crap TV.

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They are drinking alcohol and eating

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crap food.

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You know, snacks and things or

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chocolate or whatever, you know?

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Nothing is benefiting it.

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So just go

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to bed 15 minutes earlier.

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So you don't have to.

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It is not like you're missing out on

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anything, is it?

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It's not anything like it's

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not, you know,

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it's really not like we're missing

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out. So just again, he's

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in about that fine

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balance respecting your self.

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I'm going to go to bed earlier

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because tomorrow I want to wake up

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early and I don't want to compromise

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on my sleep and I want to choose me.

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First thing in the morning.

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Yeah.

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So if I had to add to

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that. One more thing is do

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not look at your mobile phone

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first thing in the morning.

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That is a killer of any

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any physical, mental and emotional

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health chance of you

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feeling in control of your life.

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You know, I don't turn my phone on

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until I have done all my morning

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routines. I finish my breakfast

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and sometimes until I drop my kids

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off at school and then I'll turn my

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phone on. Unless

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somebody is about to die in your

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family or something, you know, that

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is something that you know that you

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need to attend to.

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There is no need for you to do that.

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It's very, very true.

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And I think, you know, if anyone's

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listening to this and they feel

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resistance coming up.

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I really want to cover that before

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we move on, because the resistance

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is there to tell you something.

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It's to show you that

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there's a habit there that is no

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longer serving you.

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And when we're honest with

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ourselves, you know, none of

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us would be thinking about changing

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our habits if everything was perfect

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in our life.

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I don't know anyone where

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everything's perfect in our lives if

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we're all honest there's all areas

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where we do want to change.

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I think often the decision

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is how bad are we going to let

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it go before we make

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that change?

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And realising that there's a choice.

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You know, if you've got that little

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voice in your head or that little

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feeling in your heart that

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I'm talking myself out, when you

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find yourself trying to convince

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yourself that what you're doing is

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okay, I would see

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those as red warning flags.

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What about you, Angelica?

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I think there is this idea

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that this inner voice is just going

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to go away, like gone away,

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Right. You're going to wake up on

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Monday morning, 1st of

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January, and that voice is not going

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to be there anymore.

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So understanding that

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that voice is going to be there is

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a really important part of the

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process.

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You need to have an answer to that

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voice, because that voice is going

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to tell you 5 minutes is

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not going to do anything.

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Why are you doing that again?

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You've never done anything for too

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long. It is just a waste of time.

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Why are you meditating?

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This is useless.

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That is just

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absolutely...

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Like the real truth of what

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everybody is going to go through.

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But making the decision

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to take

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control of their

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voice. That voice is not the truth.

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It is simply

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a way of the ego trying to protect

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you, to keep you safe

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in whatever you are doing because

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it's comfortable by nature.

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We choose that comfort.

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But that does not mean that it's

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true.

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So another trick to

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the habit is before you go

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to bed, you rehearse

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what's going to happen?

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You wake up and that little friend

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is going to be there.

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Why are you doing that?

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This is useless. It's not going to

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do anything for you.

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Don't get up.

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It's too dark.

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It's too cold.

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So you just tell that

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the voice gently "I know

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what you're talking about, but I'm

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going to do it anyway".

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Yeah.

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That's the plan.

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You know, people that succeed, they

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have a plan. They don't don't just

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go with the flow.

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You know, this is... you need to

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have a plan in your mind, what am I

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going to do tomorrow when that inner

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voice that has always been there?

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Belittling me and putting

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me down and never encouraging

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me. What am I going to answer

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to that voice? Because that voice is

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not going to go away.

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And that's not because you're crazy.

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Everybody has got that little voice.

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So it's managing that.

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Yeah, I think it's really,

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really good advice for people

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because, you know, preparation

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is so key to success.

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When you can anticipate

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these things that you're going to

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face, you can...

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I have a laugh about it.

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You know, I have a laugh with the

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conversations I have with my inner

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voice. I find it quite amusing.

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And when you can recognise that

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and separate that from you, you

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know, there's so much, this is so

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deep, everyone, we can go into

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different areas. Oh here comes Coco.

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I hope she's not gonna pull my

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internet out.

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She comes on my desk and then pulls

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all the internet out.

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But I think being prepared...

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Now, there's so much to show

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that your morning routine and your

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bedtime routine are

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absolutely key to making any changes

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in your life.

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Shall we have... We've already

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spoken a little bit about that, but

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there's books like The Miracle

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Morning, which I absolutely love.

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Now. It's pretty full on, but

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actually you can implement little

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bits of it, but understanding

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how you start your day

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and how you end your day are

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really crucial.

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What have you learned about that,

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Angelica?

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Yeah. So that's why I really think

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that starting with and

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the exercising of your body and

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exercising of your mind, it's a

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must. The Miracle Morning is a

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beautiful book, but

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you know, when people read that,

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I've read that book, it's like, how

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am I going to fit all

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of this?

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You know, in my morning routine

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since I have been exhausted,

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I can't wake up an hour and a half

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before I need to get out of the

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house or whatever.

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So I think that's a little

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overwhelming.

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I agree.

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So I think that if you start

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with your.

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If you start with your body

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and your mind.

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And the reason why I start with the

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body and the mind is because

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we live in our bodies,

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even though we can control

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our thoughts.

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If our bodies, you know,

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is in shambles like mine was, like

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everything is out of whack

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and you were exhausted.

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And you, you know, you don't know if

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you're coming or going.

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It's very hard for you to focus on

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anything because you are literally

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on survival mode.

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You're getting out of bed exhausted.

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You're going to work exhausted.

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You would just literally surviving.

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So if you don't attend to your body

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first thing in the morning.

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And so, like I said, it can go so

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deep into that.

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You know, you're saying

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to yourself.

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You are a priority.

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I love you.

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You are first.

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It doesn't matter what happens

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after. I am putting you first.

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This is the kind of connection I

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have with my body because I started

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doing 5 minutes.

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Exercising my body 5 minutes,

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exercising my mind.

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Now, why is it so important to

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exercise your mind?

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Because everybody's got this

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inner crazy voices

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loose monkey inside of their heads

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that are just running wild.

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And that 5 minutes of

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quiet time, no devices,

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no flashing things, no

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notifications, nothing.

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You start it, you start

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understanding their voice.

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Like you're saying to the point that

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one day you can actually laugh about

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it. But most people

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are not.

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They don't even understand

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that their voice is controlling

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them.

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24/7 and that's dictating

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everything that they do.

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24/7 because they have

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zero control of what's going on in

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their heads, because they don't they

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don't stop.

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Yeah.

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Now, I had a client who

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was a very successful

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high achiever

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and was married, happy with kids,

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eat healthily.

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Her health was under control

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physically.

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But she said, I'm not happy.

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I'm just not happy.

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And everybody tells me to meditate

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and, you know, I haven't got time.

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This is ridiculous.

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The thing is with meditation is that

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you need to with with yourself.

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And that's scary.

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And that can be quite scary and

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daunting because if you are like me

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before cancer, I had never

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sat with myself, I didn't even know

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who I was.

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I'm like, Who is this person?

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Who is this body?

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What is this voice?

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What is going on?

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How did I even get here?

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And of course, as soon as you start

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going down there, you can either

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let the resistance control

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you and you stop doing

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it altogether,

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or you can embrace this journey

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and think you know what.

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Yeah, I have... There's so many

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things that I want to change.

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I have been doing so many things

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that are not really benefiting me.

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You know, I'm just going down the

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wrong path here.

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You know, I

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felt that it was almost like I

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needed to learn how to walk

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again. I need to learn how to talk

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again because everything that I've

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been doing is wrong.

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So be prepared to sit with that.

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It can be challenging.

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But I would always say to people,

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don't underestimate the power

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of 5 minutes.

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A different a different habit.

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Because I am here today.

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Because I was prepared.

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To sit there for the 5 minutes to

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exercise, for the 5 minutes to do my

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yoga practice for 5 minutes.

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And some days I would think to

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myself, this is not doing anything.

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Nothing is doing anything.

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I'm not getting any better.

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I had many setbacks.

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I would go in to have my

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my chemotherapy treatment and they

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would be saying to me, your bloods

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are not good enough.

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You've got low platelets, you've got

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a low white cell.

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You know this is happening.

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That's happening.

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And, you know, and I was already

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changing.

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But the thing is, like, it takes

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time for the body to create

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the disease.

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Takes time.

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It takes time for the body to create

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harmony again and

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and to reregulate again

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to find a new normal again.

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Patience and persistence.

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And it is really, really important.

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Yeah, I think that's just

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absolutely key.

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In terms of, um,

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when people are...

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If you're starting working with

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clients and you're starting to get

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them to sort of self-assess.

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So we've got the starting point, the

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morning starting point, mind

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and body, start small.

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I 100% agree with that.

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So if people are listening to this

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and they're thinking, right, but

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there's so much about my life that

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I want to change, we know

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we're going to start small, but

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how do you keep

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the motivation to sort of start

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then adding things on?

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So when do you start adding the next

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things on so that because positive

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feedback is a real encourager

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for people, isn't it, when they do

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start feeling different, when they

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do see that change,

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it can give you that next boost

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to keep going and know that you can

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achieve more.

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How do you cover that process with

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your clients?

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So there are a couple of options,

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like there is an option that we

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have Zoom sessions and we have

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I provide them a 1

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to 1 support via text

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in between sessions, which I

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really believe is very, very

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important in this process because

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life keeps happening.

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Yeah, and you probably have

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experienced that with your clients

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as well.

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And as soon something happens and

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it's a little bit out of the whack,

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you know, it's very easy for them to

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just like, that's it.

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Now all my routine is out of whack.

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I don't know what to do.

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And in actual fact, that's a really

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important part of the process

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to go, okay, that happened.

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That's good, That's great.

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So now you know, how are we going

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to keep growing, how

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we know we were going before the

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morning routine?

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And it might be that, you know,

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people are doing 15 minutes, but,

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you know, a couple of things

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happened so that they don't miss

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today altogether.

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But you do 5 minutes or you

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do your walk during lunchtime.

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So it's teaching people

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to think for themselves as

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well.

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You know, And sometimes, you know,

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as you probably have experienced,

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some people are quicker

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to grasp, you know,

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the whole idea of like, you know,

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I'm on a roll now, I really like

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it. You know, I want to change

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more one more.

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What should I do here?

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What should I do there?

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And some people, it takes a little

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longer. Again, there is no judgement

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here. We need to start

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with what we've got.

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You know, like there was no point in

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like if, if, you know, during my

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healing journey, if I was like,

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stage three bowel cancer, I keep

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thinking to myself, Oh my God, I

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know why, You know, like, why do I

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start here? And I'm so sick and poor

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me and I'm so sorry for myself.

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I mean, that doesn't help anybody.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, So you go, okay, so

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this is what I've got.

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Yeah.

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I think that leads really, really

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nicely into the next thing.

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So a lot of people will say, I can't

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because.

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And I think you are particularly

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good. I mean, anyone who's not on

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Angelica's newsletter list,

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please get on Angelica's newsletter

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list, the links are below,

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the amount of advice

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and really, really good advice

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and straight talking advice that you

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give out for free is absolutely

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phenomenal. And this is what I mean.

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There's people out there like

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Angelica that really, really

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want to help. We're all in this

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together. You know, we can we can

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all learn from each other and help

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support each other.

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But when people are...

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It's another habit, isn't

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it, that we go some

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people, more than others, will go

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straight into I can't

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because rather than I can.

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And with anyone who's got

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children, we know how to encourage

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and work through that.

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But often as adults they don't

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necessarily feel they've got that

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encouragement, which is why working

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with someone else to give you that

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encouragement is often key to

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success.

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But recognition that you're

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going into I can't poor

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me is the first step, would you say?

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The first step.

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I mean, I have had clients that is

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still by the time that they

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come to me, they are feeling very

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desperate because they have been

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to different health professionals.

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They haven't had the answer that

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they want.

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They have tried all the magic pills

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and all the quick fixes and nothing

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has has really helped

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them and they are ready to change.

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But in saying that there are clients

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that when things

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get hard, you know,

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there is a lot of resistance, you

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know, and I will.

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And I think it's important as a

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coach to

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to be honest with people.

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You know, when people say I can't

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because my first initial

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thought it will be to give them an

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alternative solution.

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Okay, let's say I don't like

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walking. I hate walking.

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Okay. So what do you like

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doing? You know, do you like yoga?

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Do you like swimming?

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Do you love, like,

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going on your bike?

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You know, but you know, you

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need to choose one thing that you

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enjoy. I think that's really

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important. You like dancing,

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whatever it is.

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But bottom line is, what are

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you going to do?

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Hmm.

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To exercise your body.

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You know, and I think it's, you

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know, the person can come up with

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their own, you know, plan that that

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makes them feel happier.

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That's fine.

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But if they if the answer is

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always I can't because I

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can't because I will hold

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their hand as much as I can.

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But it does get to a point that you

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need to say, okay, so do

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remember why we got together.

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What are your goals?

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Okay. Well, my goal with is to,

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you know, get my energy levels upon.

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My goal with is to heal myself from,

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you know, anxiety or from acid

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reflux or from my constipation

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issues or from, you know, I

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want to finish cancer treatment

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feeling stronger like you did.

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Okay. So if that is

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your goal, what are

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you prepared to do every single

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day to get you there?

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Because by doing nothing, you're

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not going to get that.

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And I think because I lived through

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it, if people, especially if people

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have gone through the cancer

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treatment, a cancer journey, people

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will say to me, like, I'm really

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tired. And I'll be like, Yeah, I

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know, I've been there.

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I have been there.

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I know. It's exhausting.

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It's not fun.

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It's not great.

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It's not ideal.

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But I'm telling you, if you do

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it now, if you push through it now,

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the results are going to be amazing.

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You are not going to believe how

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much your body is going to give back

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to you.

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So it's taking them on this journey

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of, you know.

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I think it's really important to

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reconnect them to their "why"?

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Yes.

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A lot of people, for example,

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you know, these days they want to

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lose weight.

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I know they want to lose weight and

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they want to lose weight fast

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because they want to see themselves

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in that bikini picture.

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That's it. That's all they have in

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their mind. And I just want to look

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sexy. I want to look beautiful.

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I want to look like this, you know,

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like this Instagram pictures or

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whatever.

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Okay. But that is not enough

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motivation to get you doing what

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you need to do, especially if you

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need to lose a lot of weight

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to get there.

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You need to have something different

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in that.

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You know, you're going to try for a

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week, you're going to try for two

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weeks, and then you're going to go

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back and doing the same things as

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you did before.

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And this is why weight loss is

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an industry that is worth

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trillions of dollars.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah. Everyone wants a quick fix.

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But at the end of the day, there's

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tools that can help us get

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started and make our

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journey easier.

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There's choices we can make from

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there, but no one else is going to

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do it. So I loved your latest

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newsletter. This really stood out

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for me because I thought, Bingo,

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there's so many people that feel

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this. I don't think there's anyone

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that won't have felt this.

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When someone says to you,

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Well, okay, you've come

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up and you're building on different

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habits, change your way because

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that's Joe Dispenser.

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And as everyone says, you know,

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you're not going to get different

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results if you don't start doing

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things differently.

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Yeah, it's literally that simple

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for me. It's like, you know, I have

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this every day.

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Angelica Well, yeah, if I want to do

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different, if I want to feel

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differently, if I want to have

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more energy, if I want to,

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whatever your goal might be,

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then I have to do something

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differently. Because if I keep doing

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the same thing, I'm going to keep

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getting the same results. So that

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realisation.

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It is literally that honest and that

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straightforward.

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But I notice someone asked you

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about, well, how

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do you not worry

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that you're going to slip back into

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your old habits?

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And most people do slip

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back. Yeah, old habits.

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And I said when

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you said, Well, I sat there and I

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thought, Do I want to feel exhausted

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again? Do I want to feel out of

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control? So talk us through

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when people because it's that nag,

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that voice. Again, everyone's

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thinking, but it's not going to

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last. I've tried it before.

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I've tried changing before.

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Hasn't worked.

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What's that switch?

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Yeah.

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So I'm going to talk about an

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emotional habit that I change.

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Actually, a couple

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that was really ingrained

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in my physical body, and it was

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my addiction to anger

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and my addiction to which

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which really, you know,

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became a deep resentment inside of

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me with everything.

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And my default mode

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to react towards anything that

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happened to my life.

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And my addiction to stress.

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And you know the addiction.

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Both of them came from

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observing my parents,

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dealing with things, because

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when I was about 15,

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my my dad had a business with his

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family and it didn't work

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out. And our lives became quite

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tormented in that period.

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And then I saw my dad just being

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very angry and very, you know,

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everything. It was a stress

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thing in my house was just

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horrendous, you know, And I, I kind

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of thought, this is how you deal

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with life. This is how you

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you know, like I say, you know, kids

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do what you do, not what you

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ask them to do.

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Right?

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And I created these and I manifested

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stressful jobs and our manifested,

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you know, opportunities in my life

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to be angry.

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And after I finished chemotherapy,

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feeling my physical body

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was in

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excellent shape

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for what I had gone through.

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I realised I need to now

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it start tapping into my

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mental and emotional habits because

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I can't get stressed like this

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anymore.

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You know, I can't keep being

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stressed all the time and worrying

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crazy. I can't do this anymore.

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I can't afford to doing that

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anymore. And I, for one stressful

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situation, it can shut down

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your immune system for 5

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hours.

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Yeah, for that.

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You know, it was it was it was real

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Like for me, it was like, this is a

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fact.

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So what am I going to do about it?

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And I started observing myself

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how I dealt with everything

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and becoming really self aware of,

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Wow, why do I get so angry about

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something that's got nothing to do

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with me?

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It's this is just it's

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very interesting.

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And, you know, and I started

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observing someone and I stopped

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being scared to

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sit with me.

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To sit with my feelings and with

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my, you know, the way that I was.

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I think a lot of it, we feel shame

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and we feel guilt, you know, why am

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I so crazy?

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Know, like, why why do I behave

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like this? Or, you know, I want to

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change, but I don't know how because

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you are in kind of this

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self-awareness stage

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and thinking like, how how do

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I move that to create a

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new habit.

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And I think what people don't

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realise is that.

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Every plate of food that

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you eat, every time

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you exercise, every meditation

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practice, you start building

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a different foundation,

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a different environment

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inside you at a

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physical level, at an

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energetic level in your cells.

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And at an emotional level.

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So that urge

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is starts getting less and less.

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Because if you think about it, a

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person who is eating constantly

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sugar, drinking alcohol

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and not, you know, not sleeping, not

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exercising, it doesn't take

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that much for that person to be

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stressed.

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It doesn't take much for that

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person to be angry.

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I was that person.

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But once I start looking after my

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terrain, my garden,

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it was even easier to become

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aware of the habit.

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And when it comes to an emotional

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habit, is just about becoming aware.

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Every time he pops, it pops up.

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Here I go. I'm angry again.

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This is it. I'm angry again.

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This is really interesting.

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There is no judgement.

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I'm just angry. That's okay.

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I'm not going to judge myself.

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I'm not going to kill myself over

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it. I am just angry again.

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I am just stressed.

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Why am I so stressed about this?

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What can I do in this situation?

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Or like were you you say I was

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like that always constantly

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worrying, constantly worrying until

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my life became so fragile

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that I couldn't even

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plan the next day, because the next

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day I could have been in emergency

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and in the hospital.

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So planning was just an illusion.

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So when life got me to

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facing that "do you want a plan?"

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Well I'm going to show you how

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you can plan.

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So tomorrow you're going to be you

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know, you're at emergency.

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You're like, why did I even worry

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about that. I didn't even know

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I was going to be here?

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And I really think... And I mean,

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this is perhaps another episode

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that we could do. We manifest things

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in our lives so we can go through

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our learning.

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And again, because I'm stubborn as

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hell, I manifested something

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that was pretty serious for me to

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see what I needed to do.

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So we do those things here

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so people don't have to go through

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those things, right?

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So people can just wake up before.

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Yeah. And it's a choice, isn't it?

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It's a choice. It's an energy

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choice. And I think

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recognising that about yourself

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is absolutely key because yes, you

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can have loved ones and friends

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and things that can help

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point things out to you.

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But until you accept it yourself

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and are honest with yourself

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about your patterns, someone once

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said to me a while

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ago, You know, my

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whole corporate career was on

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project planning, risk management,

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looking at things that could go

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wrong and mitigating those risks.

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And I was really, really good at it.

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And my father was really good at

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risk management type of things as

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well.

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And then someone said to me, "well,

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are you sure you're not an

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arsonist firefighter?" So i said

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what do you mean? And it's like, "do

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you subconsciously

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create or attract things

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in your life just so that you can

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continually reinforce how good you

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are at sorting those crises out?"

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and I was like...

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It was such an aha moment

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for me. It was, yeah.

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And it was said from a place

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of...

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I didn't even know this person so

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well, but they were so perceptive

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and they were saying it from a

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really helpful place and I could

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have chosen to argue against

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that or I could have like,

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Oh my God.

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And then when you realise it...

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And you can accept it, you can then

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decide to do something about it.

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And what you realise is I

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have realised I've created

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so much energy to be able to

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put into creating things I do want

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in my life, just by

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not using that same energy for

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worrying about things that I could

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have chosen to change at any time.

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Now, it might have taken quite a

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while to get there, and this is

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why I laugh during these conversations.

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As we've said the whole time, it's

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not a race. You will get there when

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you want to, but if you're even

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watching this today, if you're

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thinking about reaching out to work

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with any sort of coach,

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I would just say, listen to

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yourself. There's some part of you

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that's crying out for help.

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There's some part of you that wants

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to make a change and knows

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that things could be even better

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in your life.

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And that will have a knock on effect

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on loved ones.

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So talk me through Angelica for you.

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Because you've made such huge

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changes. So, Angelica

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is an expert at

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getting people to create

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new habits and most importantly,

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stick to them.

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What has been the

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reaction from people that have known

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you for a long while?

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Like loved ones, family members,

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friends, etc.?

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Really interesting.

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When I decided to go plantbased

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which was one of the first

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kind of changes that I made after

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reading, you know, about nutrition

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and what I needed to do in

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my journey.

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Nobody thought it was a good idea.

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My family, not my husband

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or my kids, but like extended

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family, they were like, you can't,

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you've got to eat meat.

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And I'm like, No, I'm not.

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You know, that's it.

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You know, like, I am very

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I have been very independent,

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you know, from my family and from,

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you know, my husband's family.

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They know how strong minded I

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am.

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And I kind of, you

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know, this is it.

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This is my journey.

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You know, this is my body.

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I'm doing this.

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And I, you know, for me was very

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much I you know, for

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me, it was like life or death.

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I needed to make some drastic

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changes. And and there was nothing

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that was going to deviate me from

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that.

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I think it gets tricky.

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Like we live here in Australia and

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we don't have family here, so it's

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easy for us.

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But you know, there was a lot of

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talks all the time. Are you still

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not going to eat meat? Are you not

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going to drink milk?

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Not going to eat cheese.

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They not going to, you know, like

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you, you know, is really good for,

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you know, not going to eat pasta?

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It's like, no.

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You know, that kind of stuff.

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And it's like for me, it's like they

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don't know, you know, and after

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seeing me because of course, they

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hadn't seen me

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you know, until after the the

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treatment and how well

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we all look to me, my husband

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and my kids, everybody was like,

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wow, Like, this is incredible.

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Like, this is just

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the proof is in the pudding.

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I mean, you guys are thriving

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like I can see that.

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And I would say a few family members

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have taken on board some

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of our changes for sure,

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but not everybody.

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And again, I think that, you know,

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I have a lot of clients that said,

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they say to me, my husband is never

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going to do that.

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You know, my kids are never going to

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do that.

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You know, again, I think it's

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important not to worry about

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that and just to focus

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on you and stay in your lane.

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If that's the case.

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Like I was really lucky that my

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husband was like, okay, fine,

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I get it. And I can explain to him

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what happened, you know,

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he reaped the benefits because he's

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in the best shape of his life and

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he's going to be 50.

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My kids.

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It was a little struggle at the

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beginning. They didn't want to

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change. You know, I kind of,

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you know, kind of kept being

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persistent. Again, sometimes I would

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go to the same meal seven times

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before my daughter would say, oh,

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yeah, I really like that.

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Tastebuds take a while to change,

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don't they? Because... a different

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conversation, but the microbiome,

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if you're feeding it the wrong

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stuff, then your mouth

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and taste buds and everything will

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crave the wrong stuff.

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Because I say it's like there's

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little bad gremlins in your mouth at

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saying, Give me sugar, give me

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sugar, give me sugar.

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So, you know, this why.

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I know, I know.

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Exactly.

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It's amazing to see how your

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tastes change when you tip

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over that threshold of consistency,

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isn't it?

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Yeah. I mean, sometimes I eat an

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apple and I'm like, Oh my God,

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they've added sugar to this apple.

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This is just too sweet for me

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because I don't need any more

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refined sugar now.

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But it is a gradual process.

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And I think it's it's important

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to always reconnect

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to your way because it's not.

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And nobody wants to change,

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right? Like change is

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like it is challenging.

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We all like comfort and,

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you know, and doing the same things.

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But when you look at it and you have

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a really good audit of your life,

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you have to ask

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herself... Do I actually feel

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great? Do I jump out of bed feeling,

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you know, full of energy and happy

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and excited about the day?

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You know, people think like, oh,

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that's an illusion.

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It's not.

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It's not an illusion.

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An illusion is leaving in exhaustion

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and thinking this is the only way.

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Now, I'm not sitting here and

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saying, I don't have any problems.

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I don't have any stress, I don't

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work on anything else and I'm

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perfect.

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But I have committed to show

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up to myself every single

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day.

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So went back to that question, which

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I actually didn't finish.

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When people say to me like, you

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know, it's okay to go back to your

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old self, it's impossible.

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I've created a different pattern.

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Yeah, it's literally

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impossible.

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My body doesn't know how to

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be angry anymore like

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I was before.

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My body doesn't know how to

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be stressed all the time

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like I was before.

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You start creating different

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patterns, which is the work that Dr.

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Joe Dispensa talks about

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by sitting in meditation and

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by kind of

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how does he say, like taking

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the reins of the bull you know, like

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just every time you know, that your

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mind wanders, you bring it back.

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Your mind wanders, You bring it back

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the same thing. You know I'm

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angry. Yeah, I'm angry.

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Okay, well, now it's time

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to go for a walk,

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you know, and just have an intention

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to let this go, you know?

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And the more you start doing those

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things, the more you start creating

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different patterns inside your body,

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different energy in your cells,

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and you'll become a different

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person.

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I love it. I absolutely love

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it. So I can't wait to see the

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questions we've got from this.

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So I just want to I

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know we've been going for a while,

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but a couple more things that I

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really want to sort of cover.

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First and foremost, perception.

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So you covered something

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really, really important there that

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I just want to bring out a bit more

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for people.

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People don't realise

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how good things can be.

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Because these changes creep

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up gradually on ourselves.

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The weight, the lack of energy,

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that not having time to

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cook etc.

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And most people

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watching us, not all, I know all of

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our situations are unique,

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but a lot of people

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are lucky enough to have a lot of

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choices. You know, anyone that can

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go to a supermarket and has a choice

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of food, that's a real luxury

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that many people in the world

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have.

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So convenience

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can be such a killer of

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dreams.

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Yeah.

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So recognising

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that we have these choices

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and recognising that almost...

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I sort of say going back to

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the more simple way of things, I

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feel really, really lucky.

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So I can have my washing machine

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and my tumble dryer.

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And I... I actually try not

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to use supermarkets for

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other reasons, for ethical reasons.

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But actually going back to

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when I grew up,

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my mother didn't have big

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supermarkets, you had to

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go to the greengrocers for your

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fruit and veg and you went to the

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butchers for your meat.

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You know, it was a full day's job

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going and getting the supplies in.

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Every day food was cooked

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from scratch because we didn't have

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convenient meals.

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You know, you didn't have ready made

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meals. Yeah.

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So it's lovely.

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We've got that choice and we don't

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have to be perfect all the time.

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But realising the joy

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in going back to those basic

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life skills I

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think can be transformational.

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I'm now lucky enough I'm in a state

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where I work from home most of the

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time, so a vegetable

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garden going again.

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I've got into sprouting, I've

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got into all sorts of

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things that I've wanted to do.

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So that joy of going

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back to the basics in life can be

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so great to reconnect with, do you

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think?

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I think

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gratitude is everything.

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I, at the beginning of my journey,

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you know, I started,

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I made a shift.

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I would say I was quite a negative

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person because of everything that I

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had gone through, especially with my

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family, because my dad and my mom

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and everybody became very negative

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because our lives became hell

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overnight.

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But as soon

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as I was ready to conquer

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the cancer and that whole journey,

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I started being grateful for

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being in Australia in a first world

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country where I had the best service

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ever.

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You know, being grateful for having

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a poo after chemotherapy and being

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constipated.

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Being grateful for having had the

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best surgeon, you know, to

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have done my emergency surgery.

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Being grateful for having a plate of

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food and was healing, you know, with

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every mouthful.

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So and I think that.

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Bottom line is when you talk about

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convenience is that

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people don't prioritise their

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health. And that's the bottom line.

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Yeah. What people

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are doing with their time is they,

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they're spending on social media.

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They are spending on going

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to get a take away or whatever.

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If anything,

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I think social media is actually

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a killer of a lot of things

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because people are just scrolling

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and not educating

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themselves and applying anything to

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their lives and wasting their time.

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And when it gets down to time

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management,

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when something is important to you,

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like your social media scrolling,

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you'll make time for it.

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Absolutely.

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You know, when it's not,

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you know, it's really like thinking,

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you know, before I would be the

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first to say, oh, health is the most

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important thing, but I didn't live

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by that.

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I didn't display those

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actions every single day.

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You know, it is about thinking

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that, you know, is health really

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important to me?

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Why?

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I sat at the reception waiting

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for my chemotherapy treatment

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with people that were at least 20

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years older than me. I was by far

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the youngest.

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They would look at me thinking like,

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What are you doing here?

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You know, if I didn't have a PICC

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line, they would probably think I

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was with somebody and

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I had a

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real conversation with myself.

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Do I want to end up here again?

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Is that how I want to grow

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old?

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I mean, some people from one week

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to another, they'll come in like

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half dead

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and I'll be- I don't want to I don't

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want to come to this place anymore.

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I'm going to do everything I can

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every single day.

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So I never depend

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on doctors that I don't depend

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on medication. I was dependent

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on them.

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And, you know.

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Is that a guarantee?

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No, it's not.

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What is the...

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What is the other choice?

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Keep doing what I was doing.

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Going back to drinking

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alcohol, eating crap food,

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and being stressed out and angry and

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unhappy.

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I don't want to go back there.

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So until people are ready to have

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a hard conversation with themselves,

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you know, change is it's impossible

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to make. But once you are ready

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to to really have a serious

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conversation with yourself.

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In a little while, you know, you

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start creating a different version

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of yourself, a different body, a

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different mind.

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I have a belief that

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anything is possible.

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When you set your mind to.

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Anything is possible when

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that does not mean you're going to

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be sitting in the sofa eating cakes.

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I'm sorry.

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You know, that means you're going to

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have to do stuff.

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You know, and I think it's it's a

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choice, you know. Do you want to be

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ready?

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You know, do you actually want to do

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things or not?

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Or do you want to stay where you

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are? And for me, another

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important part, what motivated

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me, especially at the beginning, and

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I would always say this, is that

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I couldn't do it for me.

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I did it for my children because

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they were six and four.

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And the thought of them growing

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up without a Mum,

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I just couldn't bear it.

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So that got me motivated.

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So this whole idea that a bikini

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picture is going to motivate you,

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you forget about it, it's not.

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You need to have a deeper "why"

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if you want to get out of bed every

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day and control that inner

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voice and, you know, get out when

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it's dark and cold,

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you know, when you haven't

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done for years, when you want

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and lose the weight, it's not going

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to be easy.

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But is it impossible?

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No, it's not.

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And are the rewards worth it?

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Absolutely.

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And can anybody do it for you

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know, like I knew that

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the oncologists were doing the best

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they could, you know, the

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gastroenterologist were doing

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their job. But it was my job

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to take control.

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And it's everybody's job to take

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control of their health.

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There are things that only each

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of us can do.

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And that goes beyond taking

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supplements right, as you know,

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supplements sitting

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here.

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But the things that you need

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to do physically, mentally and

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emotionally, it sits with you.

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Yeah. Supplements are not

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an excuse for living an unhealthy

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a lifestyle.

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They are a brilliant enabler

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to one of your habits that you're

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going to look through, whether you

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do it on your own with your coach.

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Can I go back to the eating cake on

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the sofa? So for me, the biggest

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perception and I've seen this, my

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daughter has got a massive "why"

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and she is so brilliant

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at sticking to her habits.

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She's understood what she needs to

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do to make the changes to achieve

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what she wants. And she is an

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absolute inspiration.

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I mean, I'm blown away by how good

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she is.

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But what I wanted to say to people,

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I really want your opinion on this

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is the difference is this is

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and please correct me if I'm wrong.

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You're not sitting there thinking,

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oh, my God, I'm missing out,

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sitting on the sofa eating cake

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with my glass of wine because you

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don't want to do it anymore.

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It like when you said

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it's impossible for you to go

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back to the old way when you make

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these changes.

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It's not that you're sitting there

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each day feeling that you're

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making a sacrifice.

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You you don't ever want to

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make that choice again.

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Talk me through how that works for

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you.

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So

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I drank for 16 years

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and, you know,

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and I never stopped drinking alcohol

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after the kids, you know, like I

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kept drinking two units

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every Thursday, Friday, Saturday and

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Sunday before, you know, you're

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drinking every day.

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And you know, how goes sugar is the

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same thing. You know, everybody,

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you know, brings cakes to work and

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you eat in bed. Oh, yeah, I'm not

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addicted to sugar, but there's sugar

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in everything.

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Now, once

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you start understanding,

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the, you know, the scientific

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whatever they want to call, the

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knowledge behind why you're doing

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that. And for me, that is

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also important.

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You know, it takes 3 hours

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to to detox from one unit

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of alcohol. And I'm like, you

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know, I binge drink for 16 years.

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You know, my liver is probably still

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doing that.

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You know, like, I

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don't... I can't imagine

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going back to any of it.

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Like,

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if I see things that are,

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you know, cakes

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and chocolate,

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I would eat dark chocolate, but I

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wouldn't eat any milk chocolate

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anymore. I mean, I am a strict

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because I have to be strict because

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I have gone through what I have gone

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through. Right.

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And I want to put this out that as

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well. But I do think that

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the whole like I only do a little

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bit this

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day to have to be so cautious about

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what you do because it's

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sugar, alcohol,

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convenience is everywhere.

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So once you start getting to

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a new, creating

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a new normal inside your body.

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If we have one, take away

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a week and that would have

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to be to restaurants that I

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know where its from and all the rest

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of it. You know, I feel it in my

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body and I don't want to have any

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more than that.

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If I go to a place where,

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you know, there is nothing

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for me to eat, I will just look for

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the absolutely the healthiest

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thing. I mean, I'll get out of my

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way. I'm not doing that because,

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you know, out is not a chore.

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It is a habit now.

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It is my habit.

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I don't even think about it.

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I just do it.

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My kids do it.

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My husband does it.

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It's not... We don't even think

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about it.

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My kids would say to me, Mommy, I

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read too much sugar, I don't want

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this anymore.

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If they go to a party.

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They will tell me, Mom, you've

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eaten, what?

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We went to the restaurant.

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If you go to the restaurant

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and you bring

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the leftovers home and you eat for

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lunch, they'll be like, Oh, can we

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have something at home today?

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Because, you know, eating twice is

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just too much.

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So it's but

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it's unconscious now.

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It's unconscious.

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It's not even conscious anymore for

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me.

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Yeah. That's why I wanted to do

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really people realise is it's not...

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what we're talking about it

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you're not going to then spend the

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whole rest of your life feeling that

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you're missing out.

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It's absolutely completely

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the opposite.

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Because there will be a

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point when your body

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makes that switch-over

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where they really...

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You're not craving those choices

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anymore.

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And you know, this is the joy

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is it's not...

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It's very hard when people start

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down the journey, you think,

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Angelica, for it not to feel like

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an overwhelming mountain to climb,

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which is why we keep coming back.

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Start small.

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Work with someone to get some

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support. Yeah. And if you if you

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can't afford to coach, there's so

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much good online resources that you

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can look at with books that you

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can get, etc..

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So there's there's something out

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there for everyone, but don't

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feel...

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The rewards so outweigh

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the benefit.

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And taking that first

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step to changing

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is literally like taking the first

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step to recreating your new life.

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I totally agree.

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And I think it's I am

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I think that's a big misconception.

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People thinking that we're here

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suffering.

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You know, like if you

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ask me, I haven't

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had like a soda.

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There is things that I would never

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have never had after my cancer

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treatment. No, I would never have a

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McDonald's. Like, I would never have

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that. Not even like, I would rather

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go hungry.

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You know, there are things that we

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don't have.

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But for me, like the

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idea of it,

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it is it's it's actually quite

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scary. I'm like, I just, you know, I

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couldn't even face this in the same

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way as maybe people think about,

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you know, healthy food like that.

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I think about unhealthy food like

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that. Like, why would I even do

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this? You know, like, this is this

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is crazy. You know?

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And and I think you mentioned

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briefly about this supermarket.

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I didn't go to the supermarket for

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three months when I kind of

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self-quarantined during treatment.

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And I remember the first day I went

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to the supermarket, I had made

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so many changes already.

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My husband would go and get all the

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veggies and we would be cooking at

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home.

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And it was so overwhelming

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that experience of going to the

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supermarket for the first time, you

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know, it was like if I had never

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been to one.

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And I looked around and I stopped

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going through the aisles because

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you've got the veggies and fruit.

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And I was like, Oh, my God.

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Sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar.

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Processed, process, processed.

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And I was just like, whoa.

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And I actually felt a deep

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compassion for everybody

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that is trying to be healthy,

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because I thought to myself, how can

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somebody who

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has got no idea, was confused,

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who is trying to lose weight,

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trying to get control of their

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health come out of this place

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with a healthy trolley?

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Absolutely.

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It is virtually impossible.

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It's impossible.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And. And this is a thing.

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Yeah. I think you said so many

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times in this interview, and I'm so

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grateful that you have that

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this is not about beating yourself

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up. It's not about judging yourself.

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There's a huge difference

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between.

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Understanding

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where you're at and criticising

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yourself for it.

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It's so easy, it's virtually

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impossible. I'm very lucky.

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We live in a little village,

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quite a long way from the other

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towns, so I have no temptation

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to get takeaways most of the time.

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I'm not saying we never have one.

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If we have one, we've got to get in

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the car, drive 20, 25 minutes.

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Yeah, by the time you get back,

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it's cold. You know, we don't have

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any of that delivered to us.

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It's such a blessing.

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While, if I lived in a middle of a

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town, a city, or something,

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obviously I've got way,

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more temptations to me.

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So don't beat yourself up about

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this, but please don't feel

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that this is a hardship,

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a suffering it is literally-

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the biggest thing I want to leave

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people with. It's the complete

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opposite.

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I've got loads of habits.

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So I'm going to be speaking to

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Angelica about, you know,

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working with her. Because this is

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the thing is once you start

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and then you multiply when you have

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it, then you're ready to take on the

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next one. And some people can take

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more than one at once and other

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people can't.

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So it's a very individual journey,

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but just starting somewhere.

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So if we had to wrap up today,

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if people were sitting there

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thinking right, okay,

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I've got to first of all realise

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what my habits are.

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And secondly, start.

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You start. We've been really clear

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about 5 minutes in

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the morning for your physical body

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and quieting your mind.

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What other things do you

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want people to walk away from-

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summaries from this interview?

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What are your must haves that you

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really want people to remember?

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So sleep.

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Definitely don't compromise on

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sleep. Going to bed 15 minutes earlier.

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If

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you are going to wake up

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15 minutes earlier.

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You know, I run to my bed at 9:00

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and I wake up at five.

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So I have 8 hours.

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I literally run to my bed.

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I say to my husband, do you have

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anything else to say?

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Because I'm going to bed.

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That's it.

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So.

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Unless the house is on fire, I am

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rushing to bed.

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And and I think that,

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you know, if people are going to

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change their diet, change

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one thing at a time, so change their

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whole breakfast.

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Yeah. You know, that's a fact.

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And then and then after two weeks,

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you know, change their lunches.

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After two weeks, they start

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introducing the dinners is a bit

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harder because you have to

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incorporate the whole family, right?

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I actually do have a course which

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is called Change Your Habits, Change

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Your Life. It's 147 USD.

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You can find the link below if

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people want to get it, which takes

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people by the hand on those simple

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habits that they can implement with

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how to change the breakfast and

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lunch as well. But I

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think, like I said, it's so

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important to stop taking all

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of these advice like, Oh, this

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is too hard.

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Start where you are at

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the start with small steps

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and once you start getting the

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momentum, don't go and jump again.

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The consistency is more

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important

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than how many minutes

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you exercising and how many minutes

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you are meditating.

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You know, when you feel when you

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actually feel like this is actually

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part of who I am, then you move to

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the next habit.

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Love it.

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You know, because everybody's

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busy, everybody's got a lot

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on. So and I think

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when you start your day like this,

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the most important thing is that

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you're choosing you.

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As a mom and, you know, you know

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that like, it's so hard for us

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to choose ourselves.

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And as a parent, you know,

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we feel, you know, if you've got

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family members or or animals

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to look after.

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You know, I've had clients say I've

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got to feed my dogs first, ok, so

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you know. Okay, so how do we

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incorporate that to choosing

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you?

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Because once you fill your cup every

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morning, every day.

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You are not kind of getting your

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bank balance from the negative every

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day, which is what most people are

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doing.

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I love it. And for those of you with

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animals.

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One of the biggest joys can be

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watching them return back to health.

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And that's what I specialise in, is

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working with people to change the

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habits, the the diet plans

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the exercise that's sort

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of... It's just as important for

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animals as Coco will testify

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here lying on my desk.

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Let us know your questions below.

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Or if you're listening to this on

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the podcast, feel free to email me

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and we can answer them next time.

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Angelica's links below about

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how you can connect with her.

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Please sign up to her newsletter.

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It is brilliant.

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And also about the change your

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habits change your life course that

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she offers as well.

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And what I would say is

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there's never a better time

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than right now.

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Exactly.

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That's it. That's it.

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Yeah.

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Just start where you are and start

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now with what you have.

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Love it.

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Thank you so much, Angelica.

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I love these conversations so much.

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I learned so much.

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I found it so, so useful.

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We really appreciate your honesty

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in sharing your journey.

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It's just so wonderful to see,

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and I'm sure we will be back again

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soon.

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Thank you. Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much for taking the

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time to listen.

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Catherine Edwards

Catherine Edwards BSc(Hons) Biology, MBA is the founder of The Live-Love-Learn Podcast, The Catherine Edwards Academy and CatherineEdwards.life. She also works as a private Therapist offering a range of services for animals and humans, both in person and remotely anywhere in the world, seeking to improve their overall health and vitality. Her unique combination of holistic natural therapies provides each customer, of whatever species, with a wealth of information to understand the root cause of any imbalances, addressing the physical, emotional, spiritual and behavioural, and providing lasting solutions to regain balance. Catherine is passionate about expanding consciousness and sharing information, and is known for balancing science, philosophy and practical implementation.