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Bitesize: Resilience with Matt Le Tissier
In this short bitesize clip, Catherine chats to football legend Matt Le Tissier about resilience and speaking up for your beliefs.
To listen to the full interview, check out episode #18: Values and Integrity with Matt Le Tissier.
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Transcript
Obviously having a football career
Speaker:like yours, that's tough playing
Speaker:in front of all those fans
Speaker:that can be great when you're doing
Speaker:well and not so great when you're
Speaker:not. How do you feel your football
Speaker:career has prepared you for
Speaker:having the guts to speak up?
Speaker:Yeah, I think it was...
Speaker:I think it was very good
Speaker:preparation, actually.
Speaker:I think
Speaker:I could probably attribute most
Speaker:of that to my youth team coach in
Speaker:Southampton, a guy called Dave Merrington,
Speaker:who instilled
Speaker:in all of his players a
Speaker:mental toughness
Speaker:that was preparing you at 16 years
Speaker:of age, when I joined Southampton,
Speaker:to preparing you
Speaker:to play in the Premier League
Speaker:with seasoned old
Speaker:professionals who were
Speaker:looking to have any kind
Speaker:of advantage over you, intimidate
Speaker:you.
Speaker:And we were prepared mentally
Speaker:at a very young age.
Speaker:And I made my debut before I turned
Speaker:18, and
Speaker:a lot of that I put
Speaker:down to Dave Merringotn and the
Speaker:training that we were put through
Speaker:and the way that he prepared us
Speaker:mentally was amazing.
Speaker:And so that, looking back
Speaker:now, I
Speaker:think was probably one of the most
Speaker:important times of my life and
Speaker:has prepared me brilliantly for
Speaker:what's gone on these last three
Speaker:years.
Speaker:It's so important, isn't it?
Speaker:Because I think personally, that's
Speaker:what I'm seeing.
Speaker:You know, I'm a parent as well, and
Speaker:I'm seeing that unfortunately
Speaker:this politically awake culture
Speaker:is just not giving people the
Speaker:resilience they need.
Speaker:But we can't blame it all on
Speaker:that because there's a lot of
Speaker:people, as you know, I'm the same
Speaker:age as you, there's a lot of people
Speaker:of our age that aren't showing much
Speaker:resilience.
Speaker:Why do you think that is,
Speaker:Matt? What's missing in
Speaker:this personality of
Speaker:people around now?
Speaker:Um, I think what's
Speaker:missing is the fact that
Speaker:from a young age we were never
Speaker:taught to think critically about
Speaker:things. I think the in the education
Speaker:system is an indoctrination system.
Speaker:When I look back now, you
Speaker:are just being prepared
Speaker:to obey authority at all times,
Speaker:not questioning, do as you're told,
Speaker:and remember things.
Speaker:And that's that.
Speaker:When I look back now, there's
Speaker:so much stuff
Speaker:that I should have been taught in
Speaker:school about real life that you that
Speaker:you're never taught in school.
Speaker:And sadly, I
Speaker:think we've
Speaker:brought up a generation of people
Speaker:who don't want to
Speaker:question things, just do as they're
Speaker:told and obey authority.
Speaker:And they've stopped using their own
Speaker:critical thinking skills.
Speaker:Stop being a sovereign human
Speaker:being, and stop listening to their
Speaker:gut and their instincts,
Speaker:because I think that's a big thing
Speaker:that has been forgotten
Speaker:in our society.
Speaker:And I think it's been done
Speaker:deliberately, quite frankly, after
Speaker:what I've witnessed over the last
Speaker:three years.
Speaker:And I mean, your dad, you know, what
Speaker:is your main driver for
Speaker:doing this? Because even though
Speaker:you've got a lot of the skills
Speaker:you've developed those over years,
Speaker:your personality is very
Speaker:resilient, which is something we
Speaker:just do not see of many people.
Speaker:It can still be really hard, can't
Speaker:it, when you're having this not just
Speaker:for you, but for your immediate
Speaker:family.
Speaker:So what has been your driver really
Speaker:that's given you the strength
Speaker:to actually keep going with all
Speaker:these insults being thrown at you
Speaker:and losing your job?
Speaker:Don't forget, you lost- you
Speaker:lost a really good job
Speaker:for sticking to your morals.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:I think
Speaker:the one thing most people know about
Speaker:me is that
Speaker:I was never in football
Speaker:because it paid well.
Speaker:Yeah, I played football because I
Speaker:love the sport. It was...
Speaker:my life has never really been about
Speaker:money.
Speaker:Yes, it's nice to have
Speaker:a nice house and
Speaker:be able to go on nice holidays and
Speaker:all that kind of stuff.
Speaker:But that is not my primary driver
Speaker:in life. My primary driver in life
Speaker:is to be happy.
Speaker:Yeah, I just want to be happy in
Speaker:my life that I want...
Speaker:And I want the same for my children,
Speaker:you know? And so I think that's
Speaker:probably the main driver.
Speaker:I hate unfairness.
Speaker:I really hate, you
Speaker:know, I'm a Libran and
Speaker:I need a nice balance in my life.
Speaker:And I like to see things being just
Speaker:and fair.
Speaker:And unfortunately, what we've
Speaker:witnessed the last few years is
Speaker:neither been just nor fair to the
Speaker:poorest people in our communities.
Speaker:We've seen the biggest transfer of
Speaker:wealth from the lower middle classes
Speaker:to the upper class,
Speaker:and nobody seems to want to talk
Speaker:about this.
Speaker:And that's why I speak up, because I
Speaker:want the world to be a better place.
Speaker:I love it. It's so, so important.
Speaker:And I think, you know, I
Speaker:know you get a little bit coy when
Speaker:people call you brave and
Speaker:everything, but people in your
Speaker:position that have an established
Speaker:reputation, you know, do
Speaker:have a lot to lose.
Speaker:And this is what, for someone in my
Speaker:position that, you know, hasn't got
Speaker:that public profile.
Speaker:It's been so disappointing
Speaker:to see how easily
Speaker:people cave to pressure.
Speaker:Yeah, and that lack of resilience
Speaker:and I just don't get it.
Speaker:I think I'm quite lucky that I spend
Speaker:my life surrounded by animals.
Speaker:So you have to have that level of
Speaker:intuition when you're living
Speaker:ground animals.
Speaker:It's absolutely key.
Speaker:They teach us so much,
Speaker:but what things...
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